The history of Ukraine and the future of the world. Timothy Snyder, Yaroslav Hrytsak, Serhii Plokhii

Natalia Huka introduces the panelists, all professors of history: Timothy Snyder from Yale University, Yaroslav Hrytsak from Ukrainian Catholic University, and Serhii Plokhy from Harvard University. They are here to discuss the history of Ukraine and its future implications. Snyder is asked to explain the Ukrainian History Global Initiative, aiming to explore and document Ukraine's extensive history with the help of about 100 scholars.

Timothy Snyder elaborates on the Ukrainian History Global Initiative, emphasizing the project's goal to uncover unknown aspects of Ukraine's history and its significance to global history. He highlights the involvement of around 100 scholars, mostly Ukrainian, and the use of modern technology to study ancient history. The project aims to create a new model of national history, foster relationships, and make groundbreaking discoveries about Ukraine's past.

Yaroslav Hrytsak discusses the overlooked aspects of Ukrainian history and the importance of writing it from a global perspective. He mentions that many significant historical events, such as the First and Second World Wars, were influenced by what happened in Ukraine. Hrytsak emphasizes the need to write a comprehensive history that includes Ukraine's deep and early history, connecting it to global historical narratives.

Serhii Plokhy stresses the importance of viewing Ukraine within a global context. He points out that Ukraine's history intersects with major global events, such as the end of the Soviet Union and decolonization. Plokhy argues that understanding Ukraine's role in these events is crucial for comprehending broader global historical processes and lessons.

Timothy Snyder expands on how the project will reframe global history through the lens of Ukraine. He gives examples of ancient cities in Ukraine, the spread of Indo-European languages, and Ukraine's connections to Ancient Greece. Snyder explains that Ukraine has been at the center of many historical turning points and how recognizing this can reshape our understanding of global history.

Yaroslav Hrytsak continues discussing Ukraine's significant historical moments and the challenges of writing national history. He highlights the importance of overcoming historical narratives that are overly centered on Ukrainian identity and instead focuses on Ukraine's interactions and contributions to broader global history. Hrytsak calls for writing a history that acknowledges Ukraine's critical role in various global conflicts and transformations.

Timothy Snyder emphasizes the importance of acknowledging both positive and negative aspects of history to achieve dignity. He discusses the need for Ukrainians to understand their history in a global context, which helps build a more comprehensive and dignified national identity. Snyder also touches on the relevance of historical understanding in contemporary geopolitical contexts, such as the ongoing war in Ukraine.

Yaroslav Hrytsak and Timothy Snyder discuss the importance of values in history. Hrytsak highlights that Ukraine's history of resilience and persistence can offer hope and dignity, both to Ukrainians and to the world. Snyder adds that understanding and teaching history with a focus on values can help counteract destructive ideologies and narratives.

The panel discusses the importance of integrating perspectives from beyond Europe and the US into the Ukrainian History Global Initiative. Snyder explains how involving global scholars can provide new insights and ensure a comprehensive understanding of Ukraine's role in global history. The project aims to create a balanced narrative by including diverse viewpoints.

In response to a question about Russian imperialism, Timothy Snyder argues against engaging directly with Russian propaganda. Instead, he suggests creating positive, truthful narratives about Ukraine's history. Yaroslav Hrytsak and Snyder discuss the importance of focusing on building a better understanding of Ukraine's history to counteract imperialist narratives.

The panelists discuss potential future scenarios for Russia and Ukraine. They agree that Russia has no good scenarios and emphasize the importance of Ukraine's victory for its future and for global stability. Snyder highlights the need for Russia to lose to enable internal reform and improve global security.

Natalia Huka asks about defining the concept of 'never again' in the context of the atrocities happening in Ukraine. Snyder and Hrytsak stress the importance of historical understanding in preventing future atrocities. They highlight the need for accurate historical education and the dangers of historical amnesia in allowing such crimes to occur.

A question is raised about the need for a new meta-narrative to motivate Western support for Ukraine. Snyder responds that instead of creating a new grand narrative, it's more effective to focus on truth and values. He argues that emphasizing the diverse, complex truths of history can be more compelling than a single overarching narrative.

The panelists conclude by emphasizing the importance of history in shaping our understanding of the present and future. They stress the need for rigorous historical research and education to build a more accurate and dignified narrative of Ukraine's past. The discussion underscores the role of history in fostering resilience, understanding, and hope for the future.