What is Daoist Philosophy? The History and Critical Relevance of Daoist Ideas (Philosophy Lecture)
TLDRIn this lecture at East China Normal University, Professor Georg Molland explores Taoist philosophy, particularly the Zhuangzi, through a historical and socio-political lens. He contrasts it with Confucian order, highlighting Taoism's critique of civilization's discontent and its approach to achieving existential ease amidst societal pressures. Molland discusses the concept of 'genuine pretending,' suggesting that recognizing the contingency of social roles can lead to mental well-being and offers a Taoist antidote to the stress of Confucian role ethics.
Takeaways
- π The lecture discusses a unique perspective on Taoist philosophy, particularly focusing on the 'Tao Te Ching' and its reaction to Confucian philosophy within a historical and social context.
- π The presenter contrasts Western and Eastern philosophical approaches, highlighting the Western emphasis on truth versus appearance and the Eastern focus on order versus disorder.
- π€ The lecture suggests that Taoism, as presented in the 'Tao Te Ching', is a response to the 'civilizing' processes and the associated unease that can arise from the Confucian emphasis on social order and ritual.
- π The concept of 'Wu Wei' (non-action) is explored as a means of achieving order through non-interference, allowing for a self-emerging and self-maintaining order.
- π The Taoist approach is presented as a critique of the Confucian 'regime of sincerity', which demands a sincere commitment to social roles and can lead to stress and unease.
- π The idea of 'genuine pretending' is introduced as a way to cope with the pressures of civilization by understanding the contingency and fluidity of social roles.
- π¦ The 'Butterfly Dream' story is mentioned as an allegory for the Taoist concept of the fluidity and contingency of identity and existence.
- π₯ The lecture emphasizes the importance of achieving 'Yo' (ease or tranquility) within society, suggesting that Taoism offers a way to deal with the unease produced by civilization.
- πΏ The Taoist response to Confucian social order is not about rejecting society but rather about finding a way to exist within it with a sense of ease and without over-identifying with prescribed roles.
- π The presenter draws parallels between Taoist thought and the works of philosophers like Freud and Nietzsche, particularly in how they address the challenges and discontents inherent in civilization.
Q & A
What is the main focus of the lecture presented by the speaker at East China Normal University?
-The lecture focuses on the speaker's understanding of Taoist philosophy, specifically the philosophy of the Zhuangzi, contextualized within Chinese intellectual and general history, and its critical reaction to Confucian philosophy from a historical and social-political perspective.
How does the speaker's view of Taoist philosophy differ from the common Western representations?
-The speaker's view differs by not focusing on the mystical or metaphysical side of Taoism, but rather contextualizing it within the Chinese historical and social-political context, and examining its critical reaction to Confucianism.
What is the title of the speaker's presentation, and what is its connection to Sigmund Freud's work?
-The title of the presentation is 'Civilization and its Unease,' which alludes to Sigmund Freud's major work 'Civilization and its Discontent.' The speaker attempts to apply a Freudian lens to Taoism, particularly the Zhuangzi, to explore how it deals with the unease produced by civilization.
What is the general difference between Western and Chinese philosophy according to the speaker?
-The speaker suggests that Western philosophy, particularly Greek, emphasizes the distinction between truth and appearance, while Chinese philosophy places a different emphasis, focusing on the distinction between order and disorder.
In the context of Taoism, what is the concept of 'Wu Wei' and how is it related to the ordering of the world?
-'Wu Wei' or non-action is a central concept in Taoism, characterized as a means to bring about order in the world. It suggests that order can emerge naturally through non-intervention, allowing for a self-emerging and self-maintaining order.
What is the speaker's interpretation of the Zhuangzi's approach to the Confucian concept of order?
-The speaker interprets the Zhuangzi as critically reacting to the Confucian concept of order, which is established through rituals and role ethics. The Zhuangzi proposes an alternative approach that emphasizes ease and the fluidity of roles, rather than strict adherence to social roles.
How does the speaker describe the Confucian approach to the ordering of the world as depicted in the 'Mengzi'?
-The speaker describes the Confucian approach as a process of civilizing or ordering that involves the distinction between nobles and savages, intellectuals and laborers, and the establishment of role relationships within society, which are maintained and celebrated through rituals.
What is the term used by the speaker to describe the existential condition of social identity, and what does it imply?
-The speaker uses the term 'genuine pretending' to describe the existential condition of social identity. It implies that all identities, roles, and ranks within society are contingent and incongruent, and that individuals perform these roles in conformity to social expectations.
How does the speaker relate the Zhuangzi's teachings to the concept of 'Yo' or ease?
-The speaker relates the Zhuangzi's teachings to the concept of 'Yo' by suggesting that the text promotes an existential state of ease and vitality that is not yet moralized. It is a state of being that can be achieved by understanding the contingency of social roles and not over-identifying with them.
What is the significance of the story of Huineng in the Zhuangzi, and how does it illustrate the concept of 'genuine pretending'?
-The story of Huineng, where he is neither elated by promotion nor saddened by dismissal, illustrates the concept of 'genuine pretending' by showing how one can achieve a state of ease by not over-identifying with social roles and understanding their contingency.
How does the speaker's approach to Taoism reflect on contemporary society, and what insights can be gained from it?
-The speaker's approach to Taoism reflects on contemporary society by applying Taoist principles to modern issues of identity and social roles. It offers insights into achieving mental and emotional ease in a civilization that inevitably produces unease, by understanding the existential condition of genuine pretending and the fluidity of roles.
Outlines
π Introduction to the Lecture and Taoist Philosophy
The speaker introduces the lecture recorded at East China Normal University, Shanghai. The lecture covers Taoist philosophy, particularly the philosophy of the Zhuangzi, from a historical and socio-political perspective rather than a mystical or metaphysical one. The speaker aims to contextualize Taoist philosophy within Chinese intellectual history and its critical reaction to Confucian philosophy. The lecture also draws connections to Sigmund Freud's 'Civilization and Its Discontents,' exploring how Zhuangzi addresses civilization-induced unease.
π Distinguishing Western and Eastern Philosophical Emphases
The speaker discusses the differences between Western and Chinese philosophy, highlighting the Western emphasis on distinguishing truth from appearance, as seen in early Greek philosophy, and the Chinese emphasis on order versus disorder. This theme is explored through various passages, including the opening of chapter 33 of the Zhuangzi, which presents different methods proposed by philosophers for ordering the world. The speaker contrasts Confucian and Taoist approaches to order, using the example of Yao and Xu You from the Zhuangzi.
π Confucian Concept of Order and Its Critique
The speaker delves into the Confucian concept of order as presented in the Mencius, which outlines a hierarchical society where intellectual laborers order others and physical laborers are ordered. The Confucian project involves a step-by-step process of ordering nature, life, and human relationships, leading to the establishment of five key relationships (renlun). This order is maintained through rituals and moral values. The speaker argues that the Zhuangzi critically responds to the Confucian order, viewing it as potentially suppressive and toxic.
π The Role of Ritual and Confucian Sincerity
The speaker explains how Confucian rituals serve to maintain and celebrate social and political order. These rituals establish and reenact hierarchical relationships within society, both in political and everyday contexts. The speaker describes how this order requires individuals to internalize their roles sincerely, shaping their identities according to Confucian values. This process, termed a 'regime of sincerity,' is seen as totalizing and can lead to psychological and social pressures, which the Zhuangzi critiques.
π€ΉββοΈ Zhuangzi's Counter-Narratives and Anti-Role Models
The Zhuangzi offers counter-narratives to Confucianism, using humor, historical reversals, and anti-role models to subvert the Confucian order. Stories like the one about the gangster Zhu highlight the incongruity of names and roles, presenting characters that are neither purely good nor bad. These stories provide relief from the pressures of Confucian sincerity by allowing individuals to emotionally dissociate from rigid role expectations, thereby achieving a state of ease.
π Zhuangzi's Reversal of Historical Narratives
The speaker analyzes the Zhuangzi's reversal of Confucian historical narratives, such as the depiction of the Yellow Emperor and other sage kings as bringers of disorder rather than order. This anti-history challenges the Confucian narrative of civilization as a positive force, instead presenting it as a process that destroys natural ease and vitality. The Zhuangzi uses these reversals to critique the Confucian project and highlight the suffering and discontent it produces.
π The Critique of Domestication and Ritual in Zhuangzi
The Zhuangzi critiques the Confucian concept of order through the story of Bo Le and the domestication of horses. This process is compared to the function of ritual, which the Zhuangzi views as equally brutal and destructive. The speaker explains how the Zhuangzi's critique extends to the ritualistic domestication of humans, drawing parallels between the treatment of animals and the Confucian ordering of society. This critique highlights the harmful effects of Confucian rituals on natural vitality.
π The Story of Hundun and the Deadly Regime of Sincerity
The speaker discusses the famous Zhuangzi story of Hundun, an emperor without facial openings, who is killed when other emperors try to give him a human face. This story is interpreted as a critique of the Confucian regime of sincerity, which imposes roles and relationships on individuals, ultimately leading to their destruction. The Zhuangzi's antidote to this is promoting a state of ease (you) that allows individuals to dissociate from societal pressures and roles.
πΏ Achieving Ease Within Civilization
The Zhuangzi emphasizes achieving a state of ease (you) within the constraints of civilization. This state is described as an existential well-being and vitality that is intellectually sharp and socially engaged, rather than primitive or isolated. The speaker connects this idea to Freud's notion of civilization inevitably producing unease, and the Zhuangzi's attempt to enable individuals to experience ease despite societal pressures.
π The Story of Sun Shu Ao: Flexibility and Contingency of Roles
The speaker recounts the story of Sun Shu Ao, a chief minister who remains at ease whether promoted or dismissed, illustrating the contingency and fluidity of social roles. Sun Shu Ao's ability to accept the transitoriness of positions and the incongruity of social roles reflects the Zhuangzi's teaching on achieving ease by not over-identifying with any role. This perspective encourages maintaining flexibility and not internalizing societal roles too rigidly.
π Genuine Pretending as a Way to Achieve Ease
The speaker elaborates on the concept of 'genuine pretending,' where individuals understand the existential condition of playing roles within society without over-identifying with them. This insight enables individuals to achieve ease (you) in their various roles by recognizing their contingent nature. The Zhuangzi's philosophy suggests that by seeing all roles as forms of genuine pretending, one can cope with the inevitable unease of civilized life.
π Existential Influence of Zhuangzi on Personal Life
The speaker reflects on the impact of studying the Zhuangzi on his own life, noting how it has shaped his philosophical perspective and provided a therapeutic approach to dealing with societal pressures. This influence extends beyond intellectual understanding to an existential practice of maintaining ease and flexibility within various roles. The speaker considers himself a 'neo-Daoist' in his application of these principles to contemporary life.
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Keywords
π‘Taoist Philosophy
π‘Trungsa
π‘Confucian Philosophy
π‘Non-action (Wu Wei)
π‘Civilization
π‘Order and Disorder
π‘Sinology
π‘Existential
π‘Genuine Pretending
π‘Ease (Yo or An)
π‘Regime of Sincerity
Highlights
Lecture presents a unique understanding of Taoist philosophy, specifically the philosophy of the Zhuangzi, contextualized within Chinese intellectual and social history.
The lecture differentiates Western and Chinese philosophical approaches, emphasizing the Greek focus on truth vs. appearance and the Chinese focus on order vs. disorder.
The Zhuangzi's philosophy is viewed as a critical reaction to Confucian thought, particularly regarding social and political order.
The concept of 'Wu Wei' (non-action) is explored as a means to achieve a self-emerging and self-maintaining order in society.
The lecture discusses the Taoist response to the pressures of the Confucian 'regime of sincerity', suggesting a need for 'ease' as an antidote.
Humour and anti-role models in the Zhuangzi serve to subvert the authority of Confucian role models and provide relief from societal pressures.
The Zhuangzi uses historical reversals to undermine the legitimacy of Confucian historical narratives and propose an alternative view of civilization.
The lecture introduces the concept of 'genuine pretending' as a way to achieve existential ease within the constraints of societal roles.
The Zhuangzi's critique of ritual is highlighted, suggesting that rituals can be as brutal as the processes they purport to civilize.
The story of Huineng and the concept of 'Xiaoyao You' (carefree wandering) are used to illustrate the Taoist ideal of existential well-being and vitality.
The lecture suggests that Taoist philosophy offers a therapeutic approach to life, helping individuals cope with the unease produced by civilization.
The concept of 'Yo' (ease) is presented as a state of existential vitality that can be achieved even within a civilized society.
The Zhuangzi's stories are interpreted as counter-narratives to the Confucian regime, providing an alternative perspective on social and political order.
The lecture concludes by emphasizing the importance of understanding the contingency of social roles to achieve a state of ease and well-being.
The Q&A session explores the application of Taoist philosophy to modern life, the comparison between Taoist and Confucian approaches to governance, and the potential overlap between Taoism and other philosophies.
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