The Trump movement is turning America fascist w/Jeff Sharlet | The Chris Hedges Report

Jeff Sharlet discusses his two-decade journey covering the convergence of extreme Christian nationalism and far-right ideologies, which he labels as Christian fascism. His new book, 'Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War', offers a critical view of the United States' descent into a Christianized fascist state under the influence of the Trump-led Republican Party. Sharlet emphasizes the importance of recognizing the threat posed by Christian fascists to democracy and highlights the role of conspiracy theories and the aesthetic of violence inherent in fascist movements.

The conversation delves into the evolution of Trump's rhetoric, starting with the prosperity gospel, a philosophy that equates material wealth with divine blessing, which was popularized by Norman Vincent Peale. Trump's initial campaign leveraged this idea, promising voters a share in his success. However, by 2020, the narrative had darkened, with Trump adopting conspiracy theories and a rhetoric filled with violence and fear, reflecting a shift towards a more sinister form of populism.

The discussion highlights how Trump's rhetoric has incorporated elements of conspiracy theories and Gnosticism, with a focus on secret knowledge and an elect group with special insights. This narrative has been used to mobilize support by creating a sense of an enemy within, fostering a community bound by shared fears and a belief in hidden truths.

The script explores the theatrical nature of Trump's political performances, including his use of skits and phone call enactments to connect with his audience. These performances, while dismissed by some as mere theater, are argued to be a significant part of his political strategy, creating an emotional bond with his supporters and reinforcing his message.

This section examines Trump's use of violent metaphors, such as the 'snake' poem and the story of General Pershing, to convey his stance on immigration and to incite fervor among his followers. The narratives are designed to elicit an emotional response and to position Trump as a strong leader capable of taking drastic measures.

The conversation touches on the cult of personality surrounding Trump and how his followers engage in a collective meaning-making process, interpreting his words and actions as part of a larger truth. This dynamic is likened to the relationship between a megachurch preacher and their congregation, where the leader's words are sacralized and unquestioned.

The script discusses the transformation of individuals like Ashli Babbitt into martyrs for the Trump movement, with her death on January 6th being used to galvanize support and initiate followers into a campaign of violence. The martyr narrative is a key element in the movement's progression towards extremism.

This part of the script addresses the changing face of fascism in America, noting that it does not adhere to traditional racial purity ideologies but instead focuses on a sense of white victimization. The discussion explores how this new form of fascism is inclusive of non-white supporters as long as they embrace the ideology of victimhood.

The conversation highlights the rise of militias and paramilitary groups, which, while not yet actively engaging in large-scale conflict, represent a simmering threat of violence. The script suggests that the current situation may be a slow burn leading to a potential civil war, with these groups playing a significant role.

The script discusses the infiltration of Christian fascist ideologies within institutions such as the military and law enforcement. It raises concerns about the potential impact on these institutions and the broader implications for society, especially if these groups gain more influence and power.

The final part of the script reflects on the global rise of fascism and the lack of a strong countervailing force to resist it. It emphasizes the importance of continued struggle and resistance, regardless of the odds, and the need to remember and learn from the past.