Why Socrates Hated Democracy

The School of Life
28 Nov 201604:21
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TLDRThe script explores the paradoxical relationship between democracy and philosophy in Ancient Greece. It highlights Socrates' skepticism towards democracy, arguing that voting is a skill requiring education, not intuition. Socrates' tragic execution by an uneducated jury underscores his warnings about the dangers of demagoguery and the preference for superficial leaders. The narrative urges a reevaluation of democracy, emphasizing the importance of wisdom and education in the voting process.

Takeaways
  • 🏛️ Democracy is highly valued, with Ancient Athens and the Parthenon symbolizing democratic values, often used for symbolic photo opportunities by democratic leaders.
  • 🤔 Ancient Greek Philosophy, particularly that of Socrates, was skeptical of democracy, viewing it as flawed without proper education in civic duties.
  • 🚢 Socrates used the analogy of a ship to illustrate his point that governance should be entrusted to those educated in its demands, not just any citizen.
  • 📚 Voting is considered a skill by Socrates, which requires systematic education, much like any other skill.
  • 💡 Socrates believed that only those who have thought about issues rationally and deeply should be allowed to vote, distinguishing between intellectual democracy and democracy by birthright.
  • 🗳️ Socrates experienced the consequences of uneducated voting firsthand when he was unjustly convicted and sentenced to death by an Athenian jury.
  • 👥 He was not advocating for an elitist system but rather for a system where voting rights are connected to wisdom and understanding of governance.
  • 🚨 The script warns of the dangers of demagoguery, a system feared by the Greeks, which can arise from uneducated voting and the exploitation of people's desires for easy answers.
  • 🌊 It mentions historical examples of demagogues in Athens, like Alcibiades, who led the city into disastrous situations due to his charismatic but harmful influence.
  • 🍬 Socrates used the metaphor of a sweet shop owner versus a doctor to illustrate how easily the uneducated populace could be swayed by pleasing but harmful rhetoric.
  • 📉 The script criticizes modern democracy for electing 'sweet shop owners' over 'doctors,' implying a preference for leaders who appeal to immediate desires over those who make tough but necessary decisions for long-term benefit.
Q & A

  • What is the general perception of democracy and Ancient Athens in modern times?

    -The general perception is that democracy and Ancient Athens are highly esteemed, with the Parthenon being a symbol of democratic values and a popular backdrop for leaders of democracies.

  • How does the script contrast the achievements of Ancient Greece in philosophy and democracy?

    -The script highlights that while Ancient Greece is celebrated for both philosophy and democracy, the philosophers, particularly Socrates, were highly critical of democracy and its flaws.

  • What analogy does Socrates use in Plato's 'The Republic' to illustrate the flaws of democracy?

    -Socrates uses the analogy of a ship's crew to explain that just as one would not entrust the ship to just anyone, one should not entrust the governance of a country to uneducated citizens.

  • What does Socrates argue is the problem with allowing uneducated citizens to vote?

    -Socrates argues that voting is a skill that requires education, and without it, citizens are unprepared to make informed decisions, which is as irresponsible as putting them in charge of a ship in a storm.

  • What was the outcome of Socrates' trial in 399 BC, and how does it relate to his views on democracy?

    -Socrates was found guilty by a jury of 500 Athenians on charges of corrupting the youth and was sentenced to death. This event illustrates the dangers of democracy without education, as Socrates himself warned.

  • What distinction does Socrates make between different types of democracy?

    -Socrates distinguishes between 'intellectual democracy,' where only those who have thought about issues rationally and deeply should vote, and democracy by birthright, where everyone has the right to vote regardless of wisdom or education.

  • What term does the script use to describe a system that Socrates warned against, where uneducated citizens could lead to?

    -The script uses the term 'demagoguery' to describe a system where uneducated citizens could lead to charismatic leaders exploiting the populace for their own ends.

  • Can you provide an example of a demagogue from Ancient Athens mentioned in the script?

    -Alcibiades is mentioned as an example of a demagogue from Ancient Athens, a wealthy and charismatic individual who eroded basic freedoms and led Athens into disastrous military ventures.

  • What election debate scenario does Socrates propose to illustrate the challenges of educated governance in a democracy?

    -Socrates proposes a debate between a doctor (representing educated governance) and a sweet shop owner (representing pandering to desires), where the doctor's truthful but bitter message is less appealing to the audience than the sweet shop owner's promises of pleasure.

  • What conclusion does the script draw about the current state of democracy in relation to Socrates' warnings?

    -The script concludes that modern democracies have largely ignored Socrates' warnings, electing leaders who pander to the populace ('sweet shop owners') rather than those who offer difficult but necessary truths ('doctors').

  • How does the script suggest we have misunderstood the concept of democracy?

    -The script suggests that we have misunderstood democracy by equating it with an unambiguous good and not recognizing it as a system that is only as effective as the education system that supports it.

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🏛️ Socrates' Critique of Democracy

This paragraph discusses the contrast between the high esteem in which democracy is held and the skepticism of it by Ancient Greek philosophy, particularly Socrates. It highlights Socrates' argument that democracy is flawed because it allows uneducated citizens to vote, which he compares to putting untrained individuals in charge of a ship. Socrates believed that voting should be a skill taught systematically, and without such education, it is irresponsible. His own execution by Athenian democracy exemplifies the dangers of uneducated voting, leading to demagoguery and the election of leaders who appeal to the masses' desires rather than their best interests.

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Keywords
💡Democracy
Democracy refers to a system of government where power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or through elected representatives. In the video's narrative, democracy is highly regarded but also scrutinized through the lens of Ancient Greek philosophy, particularly by Socrates, who questions its effectiveness without proper education and rational thought.
💡Ancient Athens
Ancient Athens is the civilization that is credited with the birth of democracy. The script uses it as a symbol of democratic values and highlights its cultural significance, especially with the mention of the Parthenon, which is often associated with democracy.
💡Philosophy
Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental questions about existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language. The script points out that despite being an achievement of Ancient Greece, philosophy, particularly as represented by Socrates, was skeptical of democracy, viewing it as flawed without an educated electorate.
💡Socrates
Socrates was an ancient Greek philosopher and is considered the founding father of Western philosophy. The script portrays him as pessimistic about democracy, believing that it requires a knowledgeable and thoughtful citizenry to function properly.
💡Plato
Plato was a philosopher in Classical Greece and a student of Socrates, who is known for his written dialogues that feature Socrates as the main character. In the script, Plato's dialogues are used to illustrate Socrates' views on democracy and the importance of education in the electoral process.
💡The Republic
The Republic is a Socratic dialogue by Plato, which discusses the nature of justice and the ideal society. The script refers to Book Six of The Republic, where Socrates uses a ship metaphor to critique democracy, suggesting that leadership should be based on knowledge and education, not mere chance or popularity.
💡Education
In the context of the script, education is portrayed as a critical component for a functional democracy. Socrates argues that the ability to vote is a skill that needs to be taught systematically, implying that an uneducated populace is unfit to make informed decisions in a democratic society.
💡Demagoguery
Demagoguery is the art of influencing people by appeals to their prejudices, emotions, and common desires, rather than by using rational argument. The script warns of the dangers of demagoguery in a democracy that lacks an educated electorate, leading to the rise of leaders who exploit the people's desires for easy answers.
💡Alcibiades
Alcibiades was a prominent Athenian statesman and general. The script uses him as an example of a demagogue in Ancient Athens, illustrating how charismatic but unscrupulous leaders can erode freedoms and lead a nation into disastrous decisions.
💡Intellectual Democracy
Intellectual democracy, as discussed in the script, is a form of democracy where only those who have thought about issues rationally and deeply are allowed to vote. This concept is contrasted with democracy by birthright, where the right to vote is given to all without consideration of their wisdom or understanding of the issues.
💡Birthright Democracy
Birthright democracy refers to a system where the right to vote is granted to all citizens by virtue of their birth. The script critiques this concept by suggesting that it can lead to the election of leaders who cater to the immediate desires of the populace, rather than those who make decisions based on long-term benefits.
Highlights

Democracy is highly valued, yet Ancient Athens, the birthplace of democracy, had a critical view of it.

The Parthenon is a symbol of democratic values, often used for photo opportunities by democratic leaders.

Ancient Greek philosophy, particularly Socrates, was skeptical of democracy.

Socrates, through Plato's dialogues, is shown to be pessimistic about the democratic process.

Plato's 'The Republic' uses a ship metaphor to illustrate the flaws of democracy.

Socrates argues that voting is a skill that requires education, not an intuitive act.

Uneducated voting is compared to putting untrained individuals in charge of a ship during a storm.

Socrates experienced the negative consequences of democratic voting firsthand, leading to his execution.

Socrates was not against voting rights for all, but advocated for rational and deep thought before voting.

The distinction between intellectual democracy and democracy by birthright has been forgotten.

Socrates warned against demagoguery, a system feared by the Greeks, which can arise from uneducated democracy.

Ancient Athens had negative experiences with demagogues, such as Alcibiades, who eroded freedoms and led to military disasters.

Socrates highlighted the danger of politicians exploiting the desire for easy answers in elections.

He used the analogy of a doctor versus a sweet shop owner to illustrate the appeal of untruthful promises over difficult truths.

Socrates's warnings about the ineffectiveness of democracy without an educated populace have been largely ignored.

Democracy is often seen as inherently good, rather than contingent on the quality of its educational system.

The consequence of ignoring Socratic principles is the election of leaders who promise easy solutions rather than difficult but necessary actions.

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